Re: [-empyre-] What is to be done

["mez breeze" <netwurker@gmail.com>]

On 1/19/07, Melinda Rackham <melinda@anat.org.au> wrote:
> Mez hi..
> Nice to know you are still around  - ive missed your unique perspectives..

:))

> By we  i am referring to cultural producers -that's the spot i sit in in
> this conversation..   have you produced any projects which raised money
> and/or secured resources to  benefit other artists or writers or the
> community at large lately?

...i'm currently n.gaged in a project doing just that...the proj is
auction/exhibition for drought relief in the upper lachlan shire where
the artists n.volved agree 2 auction off 1 of their wurks. it n.volves
raising $650,000 [2 fund drilling 14 community water bores on Council
controlled land] + n.volves around 30 artists.

> I guarantee that that funders and institutions
> wont  be  philosophically musing  on wether they subscribe to a heavily
> westernised conception of reality .. They will be wanting outcomes which are
> beneficial to their aims and goals and public profile.

  actually most of the ppl n.volved have their primary motivations
more altruistically oriented. granted there r those ppl [mostly
agents] trying 4 a more market-based angle but surprisingly the
n_[stitutions]frastructures n.volved r trying to actually lessen the
red tape rather than confuzzle with it....

> And sure you can route around that and slip into the institutional gaps and
> exploit the bugs in the social software and hardware , and get projects up
> in other contexts, not reliant on these avenues.. but really we all know
> that isn't sustainable.

   in my neck-of-the-reality-woo[ul]ds i use choice as a variable
rather than [as you seem 2] offering a perspective of viewing the
world thru blanket motivators/conceptions. .....+ i subscribe 2 the
notion that the pervading theories prevalent at the time rn't th only
1's via which cultures b.comes viable. sustainability is now an
x.tremely load[irty]ed term [IMNSHO] appropriated via economical
rationalism in order 2 mainstream [pigeon-hole] alternatives in2 an
acceptable [moolah-bottom-line_"reality"] framework.
   mel, i do understand that in ur world's architecture [which has
obviously come about thru ur own choice_set] u perceive this 2 b the
only way 2 establish + maintain adequacy in terms of  cultural
formation[s]; i am just not convinced it's the only way; n.deed, i [+
a network of others] live the difference......

> You get tired..

u do sound exhausted :/

> Eg the facilitators of empyre change
> cause no one can devote that much time to doing a community service when
> they have to pay rent.

...whereas those of us that moderate the _arc.hive_ list have it set
up on principles via which the lvl of moderator control [like that
here on empyre] isn't necessary?

> Perhaps you are alluding to romantic notions of symbiosis  where
> interactions just happen and  neither party is harmed nor helped - process
> similar to that of epiphytes - Air plants that absorb what they need from
> the air through their leaves, not through their roots - so they are
> unusually hardy and adaptive . You can put them in anything...seashells,
> teacups, empty vases, driftwood...many people like to hang them on fishing
> line. These truly are a perfect gift for plant lovers and for people who
> can't grow anything... Ahh but i wander in pseudo-modernist reverie.

a loverly wandering, tho i'm b unkeen 2 equate my position with a type
of romanticism if [by that] you're m.plying a lvl of fanciful
projection that doesn't gel well with the practicalities of how this
all manifests?

> Then there are the benefactors who give you money for nothing, people who
> don't seem to want anything but the good of media arts.. But if one objects
> to  western capitalism so much then all money is sullied and must be
> rejected.

i'm not sure how 2 respond 2 this type of x.treme polarising; i'm not
advocating a complete rejection of western capitalism @ all but am
rather trying 2 offer a modality description that doesn't display
n.trinsic/absolutist economic rationalism @ its core ?

> I changed my mind about second life cause i realised i was being an arrogant
> intellectual wanker of the worst kind.. holding a high moral ground on the
> basis of my phd research - i was forewarned by the lovely Neal Stephenson of
> the social hierarchies surrounding white thrash off the shelf Brandy avatars
> and i believed anything i could create would be far superior..  Someone
> pointed out to me another perspective on how perverse the whole of second
> life representation is. And i saw the wonderment of that world  and error of
> my ways..  I truly appreciate Eva and Franco Mattes 13 most beautiful
> avatars series.

fair enuff.

chunks,
][mez][


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